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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:09 pm 
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http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5995548

durka durka old chap

Cup of jihad then?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:17 pm 
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Are they moderate extremists or extremely moderate?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:48 pm 
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Not surprising to anyone who has paid attention since 9/11.

Related:
The British Left’s Hypocritical Embrace of Islamism
British Muslims are being spoon-fed regressive-left sedatives, encouraging a perpetual state of victimhood in order to score their petty ideological points against “the West.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... amism.html


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:08 pm 
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Foota wrote:
Not surprising to anyone who has paid attention since 9/11.

Related:
The British Left’s Hypocritical Embrace of Islamism
British Muslims are being spoon-fed regressive-left sedatives, encouraging a perpetual state of victimhood in order to score their petty ideological points against “the West.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... amism.html


Ever read any Dawkins? I think you'd probably agree with most of what he says.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/55 ... ve-not.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:14 pm 
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Ever read any Dawkins? I think you'd probably agree with most of what he says.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/55 ... ve-not.htm


Of course. Sam Harris is good on this subject too.

But they are very much the exception.

Here is Ben Affleck going absolute ape-shit on Sam Harris for stating the obvious about Islam on the Bill Maher show last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:39 pm 
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Foota wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:

Ever read any Dawkins? I think you'd probably agree with most of what he says.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/55 ... ve-not.htm


Of course. Sam Harris is good on this subject too.

But they are very much the exception.

Here is Ben Affleck going absolute ape-shit on Sam Harris for stating the obvious about Islam on the Bill Maher show last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60


Ben looked like he was on coke.

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PBFMullethunter wrote:
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5995548

durka durka old chap

Cup of jihad then?


This doesn't sound right, but I'm sure someone will unpick the stats in due course.

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Lol wtf 1000 people were asked in the survey.....it's just trashy click-bait.

Nice try tho


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Lol wtf 1000 people were asked in the survey.....it's just trashy click-bait.


1000 people is roughly par for the sample size used in opinion polling. The sample size starts becoming suspect when you go below 600 respondents.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:03 pm 
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Depends where they got the 1,000 people from, but even then....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:35 am 
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I would think the numbers are skewed because the UK peeps don't have IS breathing down their necks and slaughtering people in their back yard.

I feel that that perception is that they are fighting against non-muslims rather than the reality of an inter sect civil war

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:39 am 
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I didn't even read the article, just thought it looked like decent trolling material... :hoff

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Depends where they got the 1,000 people from, but even then....


Lots of polls show similar results. From the link I provided last week.

"Over the years, in survey after survey, attitudes have reflected a worrying trend. A quarter of British Muslims sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo shootings. 0% have expressed tolerance for homosexuality. A third have claimed that killing for religion can be justified, while 36% have thought apostates should be killed. 40% have wanted the introduction of sharia as law in the UK and 33% have expressed a desire to see the return of a worldwide theocratic Caliphate."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... amism.html


And I can't repeat this enough as this view is shared by many, including many on this forum.


But for those who I have come to call Europe’s regressive-left how could Islamist tyranny—such as burying women neck deep in the ground and stoning them to death—possibly be anything other than an authentic expression of Muslim rage at Western colonial hegemony? For don’t you know Muslims are angry? So angry, in fact, that they wish to enslave indigenous Yazidi women for sex, throw Syrian gays off tall buildings and burn people alive? All because… Israel. For Europe’s regressive-left—which is fast penetrating U.S. circles too—Muslims are not expected to be civilized. And Muslim upstarts who dare to challenge this theocratic fascism are nothing but an inconvenience to an uncannily Weimar-like populism that screams simplistically: It is all the West’s fault.


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Those crazy murderous backward Muslims may enforce green initiatives on us all!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33972240

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